I would like to summarize in brief the salient points of my article that I recently wrote for Greater Kashmir. (Disparate views should not be a hinderance)
- There are people thinking that there is a grand conspiracy being hatched in Delhi to keep Kashmir under-developed.
- That we should trust Omar in steering us away from the rut that we have been stuck in for the past two decades. We can benefit from his very excellent relations with the central government.
- That in cooperating with Omar for the development of the state, people who chose to stay away from the polls will not be giving up their hopes for the final resolution of the Kashmir issue. I quoted Omar who has repeatedly promised that a vote for the development of the state would not be a vote to shelf the Kashmir issue.
- For the benefit of all Kashmiris, I suggested people stop propagating hartals to hinder development in Kashmir.
- My main ambition in politics is to see Kashmir at par with other beautiful cities in the world.
- My suggestion is that we invite experts from Holland to teach us how to start greenhouses on a large scale. They are world-leaders in greenhouse technology.
- I have experience in getting development works completed with people's participation.
- I respect all views, including those of the separatists. Everyone is entitled to their views
- That we should join hands for the development of Kashmir
For the article, I received some excellent feedback, suggestions and encouragement. Without surprises I did receive some negative responses which I had tried to avoid because these sort of arguments do not benefit anyone. In particular the angry response by one Junaid Mattoo, who has written about this on his blog is very disappointing because his response is based on the sole premise that I, in some figment of his immature imagination, condoned the criminal acts committed by RR in Kunan Poshpora.
He goes on to say that he will cooperate in the development of Kashmir - which incidentally my article was primarily about to begin with. That just goes to prove that he wrote that article in bad faith and with nefarious intentions. If his tirade was just aimed at me, I could understand, but he goes on to ridicule my father which goes on to display his lack of character and indecency. He concludes by saying that Mr. Sagar and I are "needling" him in some way, which I do not even want to know what he means by. I will not waste my time anymore than these few paragraphs in debating someone who resorts to insulting, lying, distorting facts and taking words out of context to justify his arguments. Readers can be the judge themselves as my article as well as Mr. Junaid's response are available online on our respective blogs.
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@ Tanvir Sadiq
Yesterday at your insistence I made some comments on your previous story, where are my comments dear? Have you lost the courage to post your opponent's views onto your blog? You seem to have assumed the role of respondent also after assuming the role of a judge earlier on.
TO TANVIR SADIQ, WITH LOVE......
Well well, you accused me of misleading people by citing my own so-called, “Grand Indian Conspiracy Theories”. By stating this you probably wanted to convey that you are the only genuine and authentic voice left on the blogosphere of Kashmir and whatever you say is the “Aakashvani” that can hardly be challenged by anyone. Rest everyone else is blogging through the figment of his imagination with little truth and objectivity in their words. But I wish to remind you that you were the one who sometime back had falsely claimed on your blog that you were the runner-up candidate from Zadibal constituency thinking that nobody would ever try to verify that fact whereas in reality you were the second runner up.
Secondly even today you display on the main page of your blog that you are an IT (computer science) graduate from Mumbai, whereas the affidavit submitted by you to the Chief Electoral Officer of J&K (available at his official website) at the time of assembly elections on December 1st, 2008 clearly reveals that you have done your BITM from the Utkal University, Bhubaneswar, Orissa. I suspect that you have got a fake degree from somewhere because Utkal University does not offer any such course either in regular or distance mode as is evident from its website. Moreover if the degree was genuine, why should you lie about the University?
If this is not enough to reveal your true character, there is more. Among other things that you have sworn in the above mentioned affidavit, it greatly surprises me that in spite of hailing from a well-off business family (as per your wikipedia profile) you don’t own any piece of land, any house, any car, any golden jewellery and not even a scooter or a bicycle. You have declared that you have absolutely nothing deposited in any bank and that you just have Rs. 1 lakh cash in your possession. It astonishes me because I know you have been a corporator for the last few years and rupees one lakh is too meagre a sum that a corporator like you can make when government gives them crores for spending in their jurisdiction and how much they actually spend is no hidden secret.
I don’t think this affidavit reflects your honesty by any means. This is usually the way politicians go about declaring their assets. They start with a naught and leave scope for making money during sunny days. After all, for politicians like you making money by fair or foul means is the sole aim of entering into the dirty game named politics and you do so under the garb of progress and development of your constituency. You were the one pitted against erstwhile NC candidate for the post of Mayor Srinagar Municipal Corporation namely Ghulam Mustafa, as PDP candidate and miserably lost an obvious battle. Then you fought assembly elections and lost again to the NC candidate Peer Afaq. Inspite of these two huge defeats by NC, you are shameless enough to shower praise after praise upon Omar Abdullah under the shroud of political maturity. This makes it obvious that you are a turncoat like your father politician Sadiq Ali who didn’t mind changing sides like you every now and then.
Your repeated attempts of progressively brewing up your loyalty towards Omar are indicative of your future plans and your sturdy ambitions of gaining some position with NC support (that you have lately realised as being inevitable to achieve your goals). Your preposterous Omar sycophancy is not a sign of any political maturity as you have been blabbering; it is just your treacherous slow march towards NC for gaining a seat in the Legislative Council with NC support. Your volte face reminds me of people like BJP’s Kalyan Singh who show no character while taking sharp U-turns day in and day out and you or your father are no different from those politicians. Your father changed sides after sides and gained nothing at the end of the day. Exhausted and disappointed, he passed on the baton to you and you are faithfully treading the same path now. This is what all politicians are made of.
Your high talk about development, Kashmir cause, progress, change, bla bla bla is nothing but a farce and a political gimmick which you blissfully presume that nobody understands. But you are utterly mistaken my dear, people are smart enough to gauge the real motives of traitors like you who don’t mind selling their conscience for a few petty morsels and do not mind selling the blood of martyrs to quench your lust for power. It is still manageable to tackle the pro-Indian plague from outside the valley but is really difficult to get rid of cancer within i.e., traitors like you. As they say, “Ghar ka bedi lanka dhaye”, you are that breed. Real cause of our failure is the conscienceless and selfish people like you. It is time for you to do some introspection and regret your past mistakes. Think about those mothers who lost their young sons, those countless sisters who lost their chastity, those children who lost their parents as well as home and hearth. Think about the immense sacrifices that people have made over the past twenty years and stop siding with pro-Indian stooges, lest you shall be remembered in history as a traitor of Kashmiris. You didn't post my comments onto your blog because you have lost all courage to face criticism. I don't expect you to post my comments in future that is why I am writing over here. Hope it serves as an eye-opener to you.
Tanvir,
I think you should not spend too much time answering your critiques, when their point of criticism doesn't concern your work. Doing so, you will just lose time.
The list of people who can badmouth others is endless. Especially if that is their only claim to fame.
Insults? When did I insult you? If you feel a need to be dealt with baby gloves', you should walk away from public life.
NOTHING I said about you or your father is abusive, fallacious or insulting. I expressed my personal view that both father and son are political turncoats. Is that factually wrong? Forget your reasons and justifications. Just take a gander at how often the duo has shifted its allegiances? And, without any doubt, you will be back cozying up to the party you just left. Soon.
Development needs appreciation and I appreciate that, no matter where those notions come from. But to term genuine apprehensions as "conspiracy theories" is hurtful to the sentiments of those who have suffered due to Indian policies in Kashmir. You need to be more objective, less dramatic and sensitive if you plan on staying in the realm of public life you have chosen.
I, Mr. Sadiq, have not worked for many MNC's. I, however am a lowly Economist/Financial Consultant. I can prove factually and on the basis of scientific evidence prove it to you and those of your ilk, that India has (for the greater part of the last 16 years), orchestrated a policy of economic discrimination against Kashmir. Those deliberate policies cannot be attributed to local hostilities and tumultuous conditions. There is PROOF that India tried to break the limbs of our nation by economically devastating us.
If and when you decide to grow up, let me know and we will discuss this further and rid you of your delusions on this issue.
Best,
Junaid Azim Mattu
@Ray, thanks for the kind words, that is exactly what I intend to do.
@Junaid,
I think you need a few lessons on engaging in a civil discourse. Your immature behavior and lack of decency is evident in the fact that you cant even realize that by calling my father names just reinforces your lack of character, when he has nothing to do with my article, my arguments that I made, or my being a municipal corporator. If you have a grudge with me, why drag my father into this?
I plan to stay in politics no matter whether you approve or not. Your trying to gain attention by lying that I somehow implied about Kunan Poshpora shows how desperate you are for attention.
When you apologize and are mature enough not to resort to these gimmicks, then we can have a debate.
Tanvir Sadiq
Straight from the Thesaurus:
"Turncoat: A person who has defected".
Now, I fail to understand how that can be an insult since it's factually correct. You have a right to change loyalties and parties every weekend. But I have a right to call you, or any other person who does that, a "turncoat" (Calm down, it's neither a slur nor an abuse)
I never 'implied' that you condoned incident like Kunan Poshpura. You need to have a more objective and well grounded comprehension than that to be in public service. I clearly indicated that India has has a track record of mischief in Kashmir and the mistrust thus nurtured is not unfounded. Hence, calling those sentiments of mistrust - "conspiracy theories" is immature and unbecoming of a corporator, whose job is to serve his people in their day to day needs and not pass summarily defective political judgments on their behaviors and emotions.
You don't need my approval to be a politician, you are right. You, however, need the approval of the electorate to be a legislator. Until you get that approval, desists from making such sweeping remarks about their collective political inclinations. You are a public servant, not a politician. I, on the other hand, am an ordinary Kashmiri and can make such statements based on my own rationality. And I will continue to do just that.
Even those whom you adulate and praise have categorically stated, in private and subtly in public, that India has deliberately played foul in Kashmir and has always been inclined on keeping the state struck in the quagmire of dependence.
And once again, being a "turncoat" is not an abusive reference but a factual inference. Get over your guilt.
I don't need to "attack" a defeated legislator and a completely unknown political opportunist to gain "attention". Even if gaining "attention" was my goal, I would do so by "attacking" a known name and face. Try and get yourself out of this self adulatory delusion.
As far as continuing this discussion is concerned, I don't think you possess the humility, objectivity and political intelligence that such a debate asks for.
Salaam,
I remember a debate with Ray Lighting on my previous posts where he categorically stated that freeing Kashmir would mean instigating other separatists movements or fomenting their cause elsewhere in India, Now I feel disgusted about him. If Tanvir is writing something and asking for any kind of response how come Ray intervene and dictate.
@Tanvir
You might have major developmental programs in your mind, and you may feel bitten by what you say as 'conspiracy theories', but i just want to know that are those developmental programes viable in an atmosphere like we have in Kashmir.
Tanvir if you remember Omar's speech when he said he has never managed to assemble more than 40,000 people during his election gathering. He also reckoned pro-independence leaders' might when they managed to gather 10,00000 people in eidgah. The issue is Kashmir is a political problem and needs immediate re adressal which again needs sincerity on the part of Indian people and the state itself. Remember Mushraff had offered to pull back from Azad Kashmir in 2007 provided India follow suit. Remember there was no meddling from Pak side in recently held assemble elections...those were the bigest CBM's pak could offer India--but what did the latter do---almost nothing....
On the name of development do you think we can solve Kashmir issue.
Lates headline in GK and RK: "Unprovoked army firing three youth in Kashmir."
Now do people need justice here or multiplexes.
"Again the guilty, like always, will not be held accountable, because it will demoralise indian army and people in India...."
regards,
www.umarblogs.blogspot.com
Tail ender: If you visit my blog, people like Ray will cal it claim to fame...
Salaam,
I remember a debate with Ray Lighting on my previous posts where he categorically stated that freeing Kashmir would mean instigating other separatists movements or fomenting their cause elsewhere in India, Now I feel disgusted about him. If Tanvir is writing something and asking for any kind of response how come Ray intervene and dictate.
@Tanvir
You might have major developmental programs in your mind, and you may feel bitten by what you say as 'conspiracy theories', but i just want to know that are those developmental programes viable in an atmosphere like we have in Kashmir.
Tanvir if you remember Omar's speech when he said he has never managed to assemble more than 40,000 people during his election gathering. He also reckoned pro-independence leaders' might when they managed to gather 10,00000 people in eidgah. The issue is Kashmir is a political problem and needs immediate re adressal which again needs sincerity on the part of Indian people and the state itself. Remember Mushraff had offered to pull back from Azad Kashmir in 2007 provided India follow suit. Remember there was no meddling from Pak side in recently held assemble elections...those were the bigest CBM's pak could offer India--but what did the latter do---almost nothing....
On the name of development do you think we can solve Kashmir issue.
Lates headline in GK and RK: "Unprovoked army firing three youth in Kashmir."
Now do people need justice here or multiplexes.
"Again the guilty, like always, will not be held accountable, because it will demoralise indian army and people in India...."
regards,
www.umarblogs.blogspot.com
Tail ender: If you visit my blog, people like Ray will cal it claim to fame...
Our History is filled with disgust and treachery.When thousands of soldiers march illegally around in a civilian area,it is hard to control hostility against the entire nation.When women get raped despite of age,,people get butchered like lambs to slaughter,your optimistic retrospection transforms into something meaningless.
You people are illegally elected.Kashmir is an internationally recognized dispute.We all know how,elections work out in Kashmir.Paid mobile voters are held for the cause,voting officers are bribed and thus results are embezzled.
People want to vote because they want to get their basic necessities fulfilled.They are forced to ply with this political arrangement and they are left with no choice whatsoever.This completely violates accepted principles of liberty.
Election turnout was not 90%.Even if ,it was 45% it still isn't a valid democracy.It's a SELECTIVE DEMOCRACY and its not accepted in any world order.
If I write the atrocities and cruelties suffered by the people ,you will cry or prefer a cyanide.Grandmothers were being raped,people were burned alive in Safa Kadal by so called “Indian Armed Protectors” of rights.
If we go back to Kashmiri history,there was a split in power during 1947-1953 which meant division of leadership in pro India & pro Pakistan.Indian extremist forces played a major role in that which is quite evident from history- RSS shipped armed gangs and slaughtered Muslims in Jammu-Once Maharaja signed the standstill agreement with Pakistan.
Kashmiri's have an allergy against pro Indian nationalist leaders.Everyone has a freedom of choice and opinions but it doesn’t excuse the poison that comes out of that mouth of yours.You should observe ,read, analyze and venture out a problem.You people have no right to impart a blame game on separatists-that too with no reasons.You shouldn’t shamelessly parade a viewpoint which even doesn’t have a majority!
I may be called an outsider, as in, I m not from Kashmir. But as a world citizen, as an Indian and as a common educated reader who understands human needs, governance and also some bit of politics, I would like to say this: I have been reading your writings of late and I find your views intelligent, humane, broad-based, genuine, reasonable, progressive, and sensitive. I like them. And I am quite certain many others would too...
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